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Thread: Belize has a dirty, dirty little secret. They donít like black people in Belize

  1. #76
    belizisimo Guest
    EXHIBIT A in maddarass:

    REPLY; Nicely said kriole.....
    There are a few individuals here, who will always challenge you, on issues pertaining to Belize not accepting Hatians or other Blacks.
    There are Many Belizeans whom are "mixed-up" . Some right here at this site will act as if though they can speak for us Creole's, but i can tell these Creole haters and traitors that when the *****i hits the fan that will be the first to be shot!


    These types of individuals are anti_belize!

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    The post quoted above is exactly the type of victimhood, woe-is-me, type bull**** that i'm talking about. the Amandala editorial above, and the post above, da lone rass. and you know why? because the premise is false. native born Belizeans are NOT victims, unless we choose to make ourselves one. no one is taking our country or anything away from us.

    we have much better access to opportunities as native born Belizeans, with language skills, and schools in the city, etc. than any peasant immigrant from El Salvador who lives in Salvapan with pit latrines and dirt roads.

    on the matter of taking in haitians, which kriol 1 talks about, i would say that Belize should have a humane immigration policy, that accepts a certain number of not only haitians, but cubans also, who are fleeing horrible conditions back home.

    but we should make sure the UN and other international donors help Belize take care of any newcomers. the UN dumped thousands of Central Americans in Belize in the 1980s and then picked up and left, without helping Belize make the necessary improvements in education and health care needed to care for that many new arrivals. that should not happen again.

  2. #77
    baldhead Guest
    I think some of us are looking at a generalization in a very extreme fashion.. ..

    Immigrants will always do jobs that Belizeans typically will not want, but, at the same time, some jobs that Belizeans use to do have been taken away. In Belmopan, I remember Belizeans chopping yard to earn an extra buck, the immigrants came in a drove those prices down hence a Belizeans paying rent - not living in free tatch in Salvapan - could not compete... Are Belizeans expected to live in tatch just to compete with Central Americans???

  3. #78
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    Originally posted by baldhead
    I think some of us are looking at a generalization in a very extreme fashion.. ..

    Immigrants will always do jobs that Belizeans typically will not want, but, at the same time, some jobs that Belizeans use to do have been taken away. In Belmopan, I remember Belizeans chopping yard to earn an extra buck, the immigrants came in a drove those prices down hence a Belizeans paying rent - not living in free tatch in Salvapan - could not compete... Are Belizeans expected to live in tatch just to compete with Central Americans???
    Wouldn't you agree that the immigration situation that drove down prices in Belize are somewhat similar here in the USA? Put us in the shoe of the 'salvas' immigrants. Or better yet, look at the hatred that has developed in places like LA and New York towards immigrants 'taking away their jobs"!


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    Every country has its immigrants of all race and color....you can't blame people for wanting a better life...and even though belizeans are poor..there are still poorer people in the world....all of us over here are immigrants also...who's job's are we taking? I 'll tell you what...I know for a fact that my money and your money is paying for the ones who don't have a job and don't want to work and then some....
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  5. #80
    baldhead Guest
    Perhaps immigrants in general would bring down wages in the U.S., but that is not a result of Belizeans... they are only a drop in the bucket...

    Further, to add to my previous comment, the flip side of that discussion is: Why are so many Belizeans in the USA. Well, for the most part many professional civil servants left for political reasons in the 60's and 70's. Cacho from the Ministry of Finance, McCain from Finance, just to mention a few. However, the US still had more opportunities than Belize and many people left to take advantage of that.

    But, today, many of us are not here because of will.. rather, in spite of the resiliance of our forefathers, our leaders have raped our resources and stolen our opportunities that should have been made available to us. Today, we witness that in the most blatant of fashion.. in the early days it was more subtle.

    Look at BTL, a few years ago Belizeans owned a majority of the company - its now in foreign hands. The Tourist Village that is the centerpiece of the dynamic cruise tourism - again hijacked by the political leaders and now in foreign hands. Just two examples and we can see the huge opportunities that these two entities could have generated for the masses of Belizeans....

    So, it is not so much that Belize is short of opportunities, but rather, that these opportunities are not open to the ordinary Belize - that is whether you are PUP or UDP. The chosen few in the PUP leadership control the economic wealth - which should rightfully been for ALL of us.

    So, yes, while many Belize have come to the U.S. looking for better opportunities, we must not forget why we had to come in the first place... the political leadership simply stole the legacy of our forefathers and indirectly chased us here.....hence, I don't have any problem with the refugees in Belize.. ...

  6. #81
    novo Guest
    Racism again???.....you know i'll let you in on a little secret about my life growing up in Belize, i am not black but i too was discriminated against...by black people themselves...when they start with "dat stupid lee spanish gial".....that's discrimination..so i dont think anyone should single that out because i have seen them have as much opportunity in this country as any other poor race and there a lot of us here.


    Yeah, youare right there. I do not live in Belize now, but I grew up there. I grew up with a lot of "creole boys and men" trying to hurt and chase me because I was "spanish". Whats up with that? I am a born Belizean but I have little respect for black Belizeans. As far as I am concerned Belize would be better off if they the black Belizeans would get their act together. Amandla grow up!

  7. #82
    coccinelle Guest
    Stop talk rass!
    The world isn't fair, heck life isn't fair!
    You think all Haitians will love you once they come to Belize?
    All this is about is the fact that haitians aren't allowed in Belize,like all tha Central Americans in Belize, you think Haitians will love u once they are in Belize? I think not! All humans want a place to settle , live and climb the ladder, even if dat mean mash yu rass dong fu get to the top, yu tink dem give a damn weda yu black or not, people want to get to the top so weda yu black, white, red blue or green dem weh mash yu rass fu get to di top y up to u if u wah stay wid yu rass pan di ground.
    so stop talk bout dem no like black da belize. seh weh u mean an mean weh u seh!

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    Well i'm am very embarrase with my country because i've work and befriended some very nice and pleasant people who happens to be from Haiti, and guess what there not all black. Haiti have some very beautiful people just like Belize. I think it's time we stop looking at one skin colour and look at the person for who there are.

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    Re: Rec'd from a member: "Report post from Belizeans.com"

    Originally posted by belizean
    This is the reason that the user gave:

    Well i'm am very embarrase with my country because i've work and befriended some very nice and pleasant people who happens to be from Haiti, and guess what there not all black. Haiti have some very beautiful people just like Belize. I think it's time we stop looking at one skin colour and look at the person for who there are.

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    I'm a JAB. That half Japanese, American, and Belizean.

  10. #85
    Revolution Guest
    Firstly, it is absolutely ridiculous to trap ourselves in things that belong to the history books; there has been enough evidence to say that there are no races that exist, there is one humanity.

    The concept of "races" and "ethnic" groups are just social constructs that seem to be real but are just based upon a group of people that share a common language, a common culture, a common heritage and sight differences in DNA that were caused by the environment, leaving us with varying levels of facial and skin characteristics.

    In order for a race to actually exist; there needs to be heavily large levels of genetic variation that would separate that population from the rest of humanity.

    That does not exist and those who stay that it does are just fools who disregard science and rational conclusions.

    And secondly, the immigration and "ethnic" policy that currently exists in Belize is in-comprehensive, in-capable of keeping the population from stressing the few national resources that Belize has (it is a non-industrialized country) and it does not give way to a strategy to engage in a comprehensive process of physically integrating the entire population of Belize into one "ethnic" group, with the cultural and social traditions of all the ethnic groups that currently exist in Belize.

    The problem with Amandala, the rest of the Belizean media and the Belizean government as a whole, is that they are not willing to actually build the Belizean people and the Belizean "nation".

    They are more content with building "Belize, the land of many cultures and peoples", filled with "Blacks", "Spanish", "Garifuna" and "Mayas" that hate each other, instead of building one unified Belizean culture and one people, that work under the English language.

    The reluctance to actually engage in a policy of true "nation"-building will one day come back to bite Belize in the ***. Eventually, as the situation drags itself on, the potential for open "ethnic" conflict will increase.

    The only solution is to engage in true cultural and social revolution, not just political and economical revolution. It must coincide with the industrialization of the country and the development of directly democratic institutions.

    That is the only way we will break the current impasse that the Belizean people are in.

  11. #86
    rockview Guest

    Amandala...

    Everyone knows what happened in Rwanda, after a radio station was used to foment racial propaganda and discord.

    Belize needs to have laws in place which will force media organizations to stick by the books of one nation, one human family under one mahogany tree.

    Belize's major media house needs to be more responsible.

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