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Thread: Belize has a dirty, dirty little secret. They donít like black people in Belize

  1. #16
    belizisimo Guest
    poor mellow.

    when you grow up and stop feeling like you're a victim, we can talk man to man.

  2. #17
    belizisimo Guest
    amen, cookie!

    there is a race problem in Belize. but that's the case in every single country in the world. that doesn't make Belize so different. Doesn't mean Belize has some dirty secret.

    in Belize, some black pipple are racist against the salvadoran or guatemalan immigrant pania. some of the pania discriminate against blacks. creoles discriminate against the garifuna. everybody, it seems, discriminates against the maya.

    discrimination and racial problems are present in every society. i'm just glad that despite our issues we don't choose to kill each other over it. but we do have to tackle some of them or else you could easily see some type of balkanization take place.

    that's the problem i have the amandala article. its tries to make out that belizean blacks have all the claim on victimhood.

    you are a victim if you make yourself one.

  3. #18
    belizisimo Guest
    earth to mellow. no one really cares how well-off you are.

  4. #19
    belizesurfer Guest
    While it's certainly true that children (and even grown adults) call each other racist names and it's stupid to call someone a racist just because they don't date outside their race, the question is have the racism in Belize become institutionalize? To answer this question let's look at jobs and housing: the two major barometer of success. How many blacks own property in nice areas, especially the cayes? How many blacks have a nice job making a good salary? The answer is very little.

  5. #20
    belizisimo Guest
    surfa, actually according to the last census in Belize, as a group creoles had higher education levels, higher incomes than mestizos, garifunas and several other groups.

    that's partly a function of the fact that so many mestizos are immigrants, who came to the country with little education, tend to work in agriculture, and live in rural areas.

    poverty rates are much higher among the maya, so if anyone has a right to complain about getting the shaft, it is the maya.

    i would agree that the richest people in Belize tend to white or mestizo. but the creole middle class is quite established in Belize.

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    Guys, it is true that some of us call ourselves white

    And who cares? Not a soul. Whether or not you want to call yourself white, black, green or yellow we have to live with each other.

    Respectfully speaking, Mellow you shouldn't talk. Since you have had several white girlfriends then you may have a little halfa out there yourself.

    Who cares, he or she is probably the most gorgeous little thing.

    Are we not beautiful anyway? No matter what color we are, we are still beautiful.

  7. #22
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    RE: "The old people of "BELIZE" HAD A SAYING" better yo race.... "

    And remember this one: "Uplift yuh color" ?

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    Whatever makes you all feel good.

    The joy of life is accepting yourself for who you are. Can I tell you a secret? When you have everything handed to you and you make it in the world, that's nothing much you have accomplished. However, when everything is against you and you make it in the world, that is a GREAT accomplishment.

    I am a beautiful black woman with indian and spanish, chinese heritage. When you see me, you see a beautiful black woman. I would have to tell you I am filled with the rest but I can look indian or garifuna (depends on how I feel the day).

    When I was in Belize we used to be prejudiced against the garifuna. When I came to the States I found there were lots of people who look like the garifuna here. I realized that we all came from the wonderful land of Africa and from many tribes of Kings and Queens. I knew then that the white man's plot had failed in the States but had won over in Belize where blacks were prejudiced against blacks. In the STATES if you have a little inch of black blood in you, they call you black.

    The reason why white people have more than blacks is because they used the sweat and blood of blacks to reach where they are. I have no problem with that because I have inside information. I don't grudge them their money, I feel sorry for them for the paybacks that I see throughout my travels.

    As a man or woman thinks of themselves, that is who they will be. If you have no vision of better, then you will blame others for your misfortune. I want to tell you that until someone comes along and show you, you too can own your own mansion and you too can overachieve, you will never do it.

    The young girls began to show their belly buttons and their backsides because they see it done in Hollywood. Had there not been a role model to do so, they would not do it. What they don't know is--that will get you a one-night stand quickly, but it will not cause a man to put a big rock on your finger and make you his wife.

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    The old ignorant people were wrong when they said "better yo race"

    You are unique in yourself. It's up to you to better yourself with the talents and gifts that God gave you from birth. What the old people were saying is that because my hair is not straight, my nose flat and my skin dark, I should try to marry somebody white so that my children would not be such a reproach!

    Foolishness and Ignorance gone to seed! I am beautiful in myself and I become more so when I accept myself as who I am and who God made me. Every rose is beautiful but not every rose is red. I am fearfully and wonderfully made and Baby there will never be one like me because when God made me, He broke the mold.

    I may not be what you in your ignorance and prejudice might call "beautiful" but I think I am and that's what matters. Confidence in me and what I have to offer.

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    YOU GO GIRL MARGARET!!!!....I GOT NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR YOU GIRL!! YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!

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    Re: Whatever makes you all feel good.

    Originally posted by margaret
    The joy of life is accepting yourself for who you are. Can I tell you a secret? When you have everything handed to you and you make it in the world, that's nothing much you have accomplished. However, when everything is against you and you make it in the world, that is a GREAT accomplishment.

    I am a beautiful black woman with indian and spanish, chinese heritage. When you see me, you see a beautiful black woman. I would have to tell you I am filled with the rest but I can look indian or garifuna (depends on how I feel the day).

    When I was in Belize we used to be prejudiced against the garifuna. When I came to the States I found there were lots of people who look like the garifuna here.
    Margaret you said a lot of meaningful things however I really don't understand when people say somebody looks Garifuna I've said before that I'm Garifuna and I can't see a phenotypic distinction between us and other black people, we come in different shades, sizes etc........I believe that there is some truth to what the article stated, people always want to make Belize look like some beautiful melting pot, when that's not true. Everyone got on that guy I think his name was Pato, when there is some truth to what he said. Let me go look at it again and then I'll add. Here it is:
    Pato:" Ibelieve Belizeans are of a weak culture and have no backbone.
    Compared to other cultures, We are at the bottom of the barrel. Belizeans will never step to the forefront to defend each other, much less their country"
    Now I don't agree with all of it but I do agree with some. When I first joined this board and certain members were insulting and degrading the Garifuna people, hardly anybody took a stance and said that it was wrong.
    So I do believe that Belize has it's fair share of racial problems, however I believe that it's common place and one of the horrible legacies of slavery.
    Don't start none, won't be none!

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    I was referring to my cheekbones, Empress

    That's what Belizeans used to identify garifuna people by. I want to tell you about an incident I experienced. I went to a club filled with Belizeans and they were very cold towards me until I told them my last name, then they grew very warm towards me. This was in the States. I had gone to perform. I thought Belizeans had gotten past their old prejudices. But some have not. Really sad.

    You would think being in the States would open their eyes and they would see that black is black.

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    I was raised here in Los Angeles, and let me tell you that prejudice against Garifuna people is alive and well. It's a real shame.
    Don't start none, won't be none!

  14. #29
    belizisimo Guest
    Empress, you're right about the fact we should be ashamed for not stepping in and speaking out when we see racist language on the board. i am guilty of that. i know exactly the instance of which you speak. i believe it was just a nasty spat between two people that got out of control.

    and i gotta tell you some times, you read stuff on here and you kind of make a decision not to speak up because you tyad a fight wid pipple.

    but you make a good point. when we don't speak up, some people will interpret it to be tacit endorsement of the worst of the worst words.

  15. #30
    cookiegirl Guest
    well if it make any of you feel better, i have two very lovely Garifuna friends....they are the sweetest and i am certainly sure everyone here is as well...

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